"I doubt you know much of anything about the Bible unless you can find it explained in some neat little article somewhere."

This is a really good point.

Jim Lincoln, do you ever have an original thought about anything? Read back thru your posts. Most every one is like a plagiaristic orgy.

All of us are born sinners. I am chief among them. Everyone is born with a tendency to commit certain sins but that is the crux of the whole argument. Good grief, if I acted on every desire and temptation that I was born with, I would at best have all kinds of diseases or be in jail. I'd probably be dead.

That's the point. When you call these people homosexual or gay, you are making an excuse for their behavior because they were 'born that way'. They want you and I to believe that they cannot help but do the things they do. But they can. They CHOOSE to commit sodomy and in the process kill innocent people with their disease and filth, recruit other men to be sodomites and worst of all, bring God's judgement on the nations that tolerate or accept their behavior.

They don't. There are loads of AV
churches on this very website that don't fall into any of these categories.

Most of the wacky pentecostal churches I am familiar with use a hodgepodge of versions and many of them use the Amplified Bible (I know not why).

I agree that many dispensationalist churches still use the AV but from what I've seen, many of them are moving over to the NASB or NIV because of the influence of Dallas Seminary, Bob Jones University and the Southern Baptist hierarchy.

By calling those who engage in sodomy 'homosexuals', you are giving credence to their argument that they are 'born that way'. In other words, if they actually are 'homosexual', how can anyone deny that they are born that way and thus cannot help what they do? If these practitioners of perversion define the terms of the battle, they ultimately win the war (which they are very successfully doing). That's why even churches and Christians have become sympathetic to them in many cases. "Poor baby-let me help you with your struggle to 'come out of the 'homosexual lifestyle'". WHAT A BUNCH OF NONSENSE.

And Barrack Obama is clearly a socialist, probably a Marxist and may very well be a Muslim. My golden retriever is more qualified to be president than he is.

I have seen what happens to nations (and cities & towns, as well) when the likes of Obama are in charge. Only a fool would want him elected.

That's an excellent question.

My answer is this: Who in the world would you trust to do it? The guys who created the mess that is the New King James version? No thanks. Jay P. Green tried it several times over the years but never came close. Others have also attempted it unsuccessfully.

I have often wondered: At what point was it that the AV became so difficult to understand? It's been used by the Lord's church effectively for 400 years and continues to be used today by many (if not most) of the sound preachers and teachers that I'm aware of.

I'm certainly no genius yet I have no problem at all reading and comprehending the AV. There are verses and passages where you have to read slowly and think about what you are reading but what on earth is wrong with that? Yesterday I read several of the OT minor prophets and Matthew's gospel with no problem at all and enjoyed it immensely!

When it comes to mothers, especially those calling themselves Christians, leaving their kids to work (when they have a husband) I will tell them without any reservation that they need to be at home with those kids. I would tell Sarah Palin that immediately if I met her. I would tell her husband what a wimp he is for letting her work. Nothing that woman does -and I mean NOTHING- is as important as being at home and raising those children. She has a Down's Syndrome child at home for goodness sake!

If a man wants his wife to work, that's between him and her UNLESS THEY HAVE CHILDREN. Those kids are a whole lot more important that whatever he wants her to work for. From my experience, that's usually why mothers work: so her hubby can have more stuff. It's disgusting.

If a Christian woman has to work or starve, of course she has to do what she has to do. If a woman has been abandoned by her husband and there is simply no one else to help her then she has to work. Most of the time, however, that is simply not the case.

If a Christian mother chooses to work outside the home when she has a husband at home, she OUGHT to feel bad about it. There is an obvious reason for the guilt that she feels. God put it there. I believe it's a perfect example of what Paul was talking about in II Timothy 3.3. Many women are without the natural affection that Paul speaks of for their children. Their rebellious hearts would rather run after a handful of the world's baubles than stay at home, guide the house and raise their precious God given children. I see them every day when I'm running. They drop off their babies at the daycare in their $40,000 SUVs, dressed like queens (for the men at work to enjoy). Strangers are raising their children.

I have raised 3 children and the biggest mistake of my adult wife was allowing my wife to work (she didn't want to) for the first 2 years. I was a fool.

Any Christian woman with an able bodied husband at home needs to be at home raising her children. Period. Any able bodied man who has the mother of his children out earning him a living is less than a man. He is the personification of a wimp. God doesn't call mothers to market widgets or to work in call centers. He gives them children because He intends for them to raise them.

"Sadly, fathers die, husbands leave, and women are left to provide for their children."

Yes they do and families (if available) need to step up and help her. Churches need to certainly help her and her family. Churches don't need pastors living like royalty, more 'family centers', choir robes or congregational 'retreats'. They need to do what God intended for them to do and help those in true need. Widows are at the very top of that list.

"In that vain, they ignored the problem of divorce in the '60's and '70's, preferring not to deal with it. Christian wives were ignored by the church when husbands left."

No woman can effectively raise children to the best of her ability if she is not there with them. In 99.9% of cases, she cannot be there with them if she is working outside of her home. Being vice president is not a job she can do from home. It's not a job she can do anywhere with children around.

We are seeing the results everywhere today of mothers abandoning their homes and kids to go do what they want to do. Whether it's working in a bank, answering a phone in a call center, trading stocks, selling shoes or being VP, you can not raise kids as God intended while you are doing it. I have watched working women try to raise children via the phone on their desk for over 30 years now and I am absolutely convinced that it cannot be done.

Amen, brother Murray.

Having said that, I believe this was the most absolutely brilliant move I have ever seen by a politician in my 52 years. McCain threw Obama a fast ball he and his folks cannot possibly hit and caught them completely off guard. Plus, he announced his choice the morning after Obama's big mountain top speech and just took the wind right out of Obama's sails. This is just hilarious.

I imagine Obama & his cronies are scrambling like crazy and Hillary is probably fit to be tied. I could just see the steam blowing out of her ears when she was watching Palin's speech today.

As far as homeschooling in the UK, I have a friend there named David Norris who publishes an excellent Christian magazine called Dayspring and the most recent issue is all about public or government education vs. Christian schools and homeschooling in the UK. I'm sure he would be happy to send anyone a copy who's interested. You can access his website here: