Sorry - I Don't accept that there is a third way.

Many have come on site and arrogantly asserted themselves to be a "Biblicist" which is elitist and baloney.

You have a theology like every other Christian in existence.

TULIP is actually quite a good arbiter in doctrine. The basic point being whether God is in complete control of the move from unsaved to saved.
AND whether man is Totaly Depraved thus can have zero input into the realm of salvation, without divine assistance.

The other petals of the TULIP relate to these two points.

I have heard some suggest that they are 4 point Calvinists for example? - But there is no such thing.

Jacob Arminius raised the initial 5 points of his doctrine which is rife within the modern church.
He started at the above two points and simply "negotiated" - a different deal for the sinner.

The same way as Paul stated

"But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth" 2Thes 2:13

I believe it.

"He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." John 3:36

I believe it.

"He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son."1John 5:10

I believe it.

"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."Mark 16:16

I believe it.

"He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."John 3:18

I believe it.

Are YOU alive IN Christ?
Are YOU a Christian? - or not?

5 "For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit." Rom 8.

10 And - *IF* - Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit IS LIFE because of righteousness.

Here is another little *IF* OT. Now is your current status IN Christ or not?

11 But - *IF* - the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead DWELL IN YOU, he that raised up Christ from the dead SHALL ALSO QUICKEN YOUR MORTAL BODIES by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

Alive IN Christ happens now, Halleluiah!!!

Rom 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him

11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

1Cor 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive

Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

The Biblical Doctrines of Grace

T = Total Depravity
U = Unconditional Election
L = Limited Atonement
I = Irrisistible Grace
P = Perseverance of Saints.

Your actual Arminian alternative is of course:-

N = No I'm not as bad as the Bible says.
O = On condition if I agree Lord
N = No Limit except to Christs merits.
R = Resisting God is easy
S = Salvation might not happen.

Hey fellas
Keep working for it?
Who knows maybe you'll get there despite your human efforts.

"Nasty" - How pray did I earn that one???

As for debate with zeal
Paul teaches
Eph 5:11 "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather REPROVE them.
12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
13 But all things that are REPROVED are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light."
*((Reprove = Rebuke/Charge with fault))

2John V10 "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed"

Thus do we zealously and fervently contend for the faith.

As for your
"If *nice* people are not wanted ,i will leave"

Emotional Blackmail???

Whereas the True Christian has the power of Grace and faith to serve his Master and like Him be crucified to this world and still contend.

"But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world." Gal 6:14.
See also Gal 2:20.

With this kind of Grace, Love and Power who can be intimidated by a few epithets?

Now please don't call me "nasty"
Thats not "nice"

"Grace is carried on to perfection by Christ’s daily intercession. As the Spirit is at work in the heart, so is Christ at work in heaven. Christ is ever praying that the saint’s grace may hold out. Conserva illos; “Father, keep those whom thou hast given me:” keep them as the stars in their orbs: keep them as jewels, that they may not be lost. “Father keep them.”, John 17:7: That prayer which Christ made for Peter, was the copy of the prayer he now makes for believers. ‘I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not,’ that it be not totally eclipsed. Luke 22:22.
How can the children of such prayers perish?"

It would appear in your convictions that both Christ and the grace of God cannot defeat the poor old sinner.

The promise of God is salvation. If you are convinced that man can defeat this purpose of God and Christ Crucified, then you are not in receipt of the love of the truth.

Regards the verses you posted, eg. Gal 6:7/8, speak of TWO ways the flesh and the Spirit. Yes there is two? But you apparently believe the stronger of the two is flesh?

Paul says
24 "who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord" Rom 7

24 "Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also." Matt 23.

I get the feeling from your posts that you disapprove of Jesus words to the Pharisees, Sadducees et al.
That instead, you would rather the Lord use "nice" words to everybody???

ps::

As long as you're perfect Cheryl don't worry about us poor misbegotten miscreants.

The Bible does not teach this.

Rom 12:6 Having then gifts *DIFFERING* according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;
7 Or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching;
8 Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness.

1Cor 12:28 And God hath set *SOME*(VIZ NOT ALL) in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

1Cor 12:29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?

Eph 4:11 And he gave *SOME*(NOT ALL), apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

Ah now here's the problem. The true Christian cannot state this about their religion.

1John 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath GIVEN to US ETERNAL LIFE, and this life is in his Son.

13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that YE MAY KNOW THAT YOU HAVE ETERNAL LIFE, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Of course you do realise that the repudiation of Jesus referred to at Matt 7:23, "I never knew you" - won't be delivered to the Elect. Jesus knew them from the beginning of the world.

Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Prov 15:8 The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination to the LORD: but the prayer of the upright is his delight.

15:9 The way of the wicked is an abomination unto the LORD: but he loveth him that followeth after righteousness.

15:26 The thoughts of the wicked are an abomination to the LORD: but the words of the pure are pleasant words.

15:29 The LORD is far from the wicked: but he heareth the prayer of the righteous

16:4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

ps JD your not justifying the wicked are you?
Prov 17:15 He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD.

Islamic fundamentalism
and now
Hindu fundamentalism.

Growing belligerence in these idolatrous philosophies?
We'd better steer well clear of this.

Alternatively
We could immigrate and integrate it into our own western societies??

This prayer for Diana is about the Ch. of England grovelling (playing) to their public, and not about help for Diana, or prayer to God.

It demonstrates their blindness in Scripture truth and in true worship of God. The popish prayers for dead is bound up with purgatory, - perhaps that is where the Archbishop thinks Diana is??? However he will never declare that to his public.

2Pet 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you:...."

Love it.

Of course the real problem is the predominance of Liberalism in the C of E (and the C of S).
Liberalism being Satan's religion, destroying the authority of God and Scripture in the church and in this nation.

"Yahshua is an attempted transliteration of the original Hebrew or Aramaic name of Jesus commonly used by individuals in the Sacred Name religious movement out of Christianity. Those who follow Sacred Name teachings (such as the Assemblies of Yahweh) believe that it is essential to salvation to use the correct pronunciation of the name of the one most Christians call "Jesus". It is believed by some that this is the correct transliteration of the Hebrew יהושע (yod-he-waw-shin-ayin - usually transliterated as Y'hoshua or sometimes Yahoshua), which means "Yahweh is Salvation."
"Yahshua" supporters teach that since the Messiah will "come in his Father's Name", then he must have the name of Yahweh, or at least the abbreviated form (Yah) in his spoken name. (Sacred Name believers teach that "name" is to be interpreted literally as opposed to mean "authority.")"

Is this where your at???
Of course there is also Yashua and Yeshua.