"The Palestinian assertion that Sunni and Shiite terrorist groups do not cooperate is baseless and historically wrong.

Recent history has demonstrated that there are few religious-ideological barriers in the world of international terrorism. The secular Ba'athist regime in Syria works closely with Hizballah, as a secular Ba'athist regime in Iraq has developed ties to al-Qaeda.

Radical Sunni and Shiite Islamic groups have their own geopolitical interests in bridging the great Islamic divide - particularly their antipathy for the United States and its allies"
Lenny Ben-David.

Obvious Truth
Cheryl

Your description of "tares"

How about throwing in a bit of common sense.

False teachers/preachers
Get a job in pulpits because they seem to some as almost legitimate and genuine.

False religions and doctrines for the same reason, are able to find acceptance in society.

"Tares" as false believers in the church, also gain admission into congregations because they sound almost genuine.

As for your definition of tares in "YOUR" church, - if you have got a bunch of raging nutters like that in your pews, then are you sure it's a church you attend on Sunday? Or is it the local conspiracy theorists convention?

Wheat, tares and servants?
Who are the servants?
Are they wheat? If so why do they have a separate different task/role?

The question was basically can you discern the wheat from the tares?

If you can, what are you doing about the tares? Do you just promote yourself to judge?
Or is your heart, prayers and hope Christlike enough to reach out to them and help.?

If all you can do now is quote.
How about...
"Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment" John 7:24

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Dan Corner

Just because your accepted doctrine is different from Calvinism, - That does not establish authenticity for us.

Ref your post below.

How is the sinner in their natural state - dead in sins, blinded by Satan, supposed to descern between the Christian and the hypocrite?

What would they look for and compare with, if the grace was not in them. They can't even see sin for what it truly represents in their own human condition.

Look at Matt 7:21-23 - A people who went to church yet could not clearly see that they were in effect not real Christians. Hence Jesus words "I never knew you." If it's that difficult for those who appear to try, - then how impossible must it be for the unbelievers?

Here we go! - Come to Britain, bring your own philosophies and religion, and change the liberal, gullible, ignorant indigenous PC peoples hearts and minds.

And the blind, bird-brained and dense politicians and bureaucrats will help you do it.

Luk 8:27 "And when he went forth to land, there met him out of the city a certain man, which had devils long time, and ware no clothes, neither abode in any house, but in the tombs.
28 When he saw Jesus, he cried out, and fell down before him, and with a loud voice said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God most high? I beseech thee, torment me not.

Ref:: Your previous post;
"The only Christ that the world sees is in you and me. How are we exemplifying Christ to the world?"

Before any evil hearted sinner, - "dead in sins" as the Lord teaches, - can "see" Christ, grace and the Holy Spirit MUST open their spiritually dead heart and mind.

Eph 2:1 "And you hath *HE" quickened, who were DEAD in trespasses and sins"

2Cor 4:4 "In whom the god of this world hath BLINDED THE MINDS of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."

The sinner in his/her natural estate cannot turn to God without divine help.

Eph 2:5 "Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)"

Eph 2:8 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God"

You must remove yourself from the papal antichrist's clutches.

Be warned by the real Christians on the site. It is not only for your own good, but also for your eternal and spiritual good, that we urge you to come and join the True Church.

Until then your exegesis and comprehension of Scripture will be dogmatically doctrinaire in Roman heresy.

Note.....

Westminster confession of Faith
States

Ch 25:6. "There is no other Head of the Church but the Lord Jesus Christ:a: nor can the Pope of Rome, in any sense be head thereof; but is that Antichrist, that man of sin and son of perdition, that exalteth himself in the Church against Christ, and all that is called God.:b:"

a. Eph 1:22; Col 1:18. • b. Mat 23:8-10; 2 Thes 2:3-4, 8-9; Rev 13:6.

Be warned Hop.
Do not just come to church
But
Come to Christ.
Join the true Religion.

Surely Frank I don't detect sarcasm here do I?

1] "Reformed" = No longer of the evil papal antichrist heresy, (or any salvation by human effort) but indeed Biblical doctrine and preaching of the Truth.

2Pet 2:1 "But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways;"

2] "Presbyterian" = From "Presbyter" = Elder. Just as we are taught in Scripture.

1Tim 5:17 "Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine."

Isn't the Truth so simple.

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Abigail
Your
"The only Christ that the world sees is in you and me. How are we exemplifying Christ to the world?"

My apologies Hop!
I had no idea you were trapped in the Papal antichrist dogma, superstition and heresy. I will pray for your release from Satans awful grip in that hellish enterprise.

In the mean time let a Christian from the True Church of Christ, our only hope and Saviour, advise you vehemently to leave that accursed heretical enterprise forthwith.

There is hope for you yet.
Perhaps the Lord has sent you to SermonAudio to receive the Truth, from the grace filled Protestants and Baptists.
Remember history and the Reformation when God Himself, led His church from the bondage of popish anathema, iniquity and blasphemy.
HE brought His own out to protest against their evil doctrines, - Hence the Protestant church and truth emerged to the work of God, by His grace.

My Church is the True Church of Christ, - The Reformed Presbyterian Church.

That lot out there the great mass of reprobation are all sinners of hardened heart, without hope.

But we in the church are sinners with hope transformed by the blood of Christ.

And what? - That is easy to communicate in terms of sinful human intellect and understanding???

1John 1:6 If we say that we have FELLOWSHIP with HIM, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

1John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have FELLOWSHIP **ONE WITH ANOTHER,** and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from *ALL* sin.

JD
You underestimate, if not disqualify, the work of God through Grace and the Holy Spirit.

If you can't see that this Divine Fellowship can cross the divide of bricks and mortar, as well as denominational distinctives, then you belittle God and His Witness and instrument on earth.

His Church.
His Name.

Not Ours! - Not Human!

Does the power of God and His hand factor in your perception of church on earth?

Finally, and I know you will disagree with me here, (as usual) - But I accept the two church view of Visible and invisible. Not to mention Election following from Predestination.

NO!!

I by the grace of God and the aid of the Holy Spirit, am enabled to perceive truth in previous Christians writing, and to perceive the Truth in Scripture. Thus using the God given ability of grace to discern the Truth the Light and the Way.
Otherwise there inevitably would be confusion.

JD
"The collective mindset perpetuates false doctrine"

Whats the point of a church then JD???
This is the way of God and Christ to communicate the Word of God by the "sent" minister.
Rom 10:15 "And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."

JD
"You cannot improve on God's plan and he has planned on many faithful pastors and many local churches."

You contradict yourself here JD?
Hence if God has planned this means will HE not by grace and the Spirit ensure it's success? Just as the NT confirms it.

JD
"forsake any kind of denominationalism"

I wish you hadn't posted that formula for the Reformed.
JD just can't get it out of his head now. He keeps posting it.