Neil wrote:
So I'm supposed to believe that the Rothschilds are powerful enough to "own" all the world's major players, but *not* powerful enough to stop Amazon.com from selling "13 Bloodlines of the Illuminati."
Stalin had no problem suppressing even remotely contrary literature in his regime.

I've been hearing a lot lately about the shutting down of the Internet, and it is much harder to find stuff online now.

Tyranny has not kicked in full force YET, but when it does it will surpass what you described above under Stalin. People will be afraid to speak up, even if they want to.

It's already like that in case you haven't noticed. Everybody is a terror suspect, unless of course one is an illegal alien, then anything goes. Just talking about the subject at all makes one suspect. We are supposed to pretend everything is fine, even though we know it's anything but.

Takeheed wrote:
Do some web research on Texe Marrs-but of course if you have a bad theology yourself then you won't discern what I am getting at will you? Take heed that no man deceive YOU

Same for Alex.

DJC49 wrote:
the 5 Rothschild sons of Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744–1812) BEGAN their banking dynasty in the early 1800's during the latter stages of the Napoleonic Wars.

DJC49 wrote:
Now as for your silly theory about 1 trillion per week being stolen:...IOW, there's a heist going on that involves some Group stealing what amounts to the TOTAL GWP every year! Right?

The MSM has been reporting on troops in the streets. Also, Paulson threatened Congress w/ martial law if they didn't pass the so-called bail-out. The military has been marching in parades, helping police with auto wrecks, traffic stops, and this season are even passing out toys in front of Toys R Us, in full artillery and military gear, bulletproof vests, getting people used to seeing them.

Takeheed wrote:
Expository bible truth is the best ministry for your soul

I listen to Alex Jones because he has the fruits to back him up, has sacrificed literally half his life to fighting and exposing government corruption, and his biggest detractors are the Rivera disciples who I have learned are White Supremacists and Zionists.

There are good and courageous and honorable men alive on this planet. Not everybody is a lazy, dishonest coward. The Bible says where evil does abound, grace does more abound, and that's Alex.
I appreciate Texe Marrs as much, also Fritz Springmeyer and some others.

Passing by wrote:
Banned,
Have you read "The Unseen Hand" An Introduction to the Conspiratorial View of History by A. Ralph Epperson..

The conspiracy to destroy Christianity in general, Nero's burning of Rome and blaming the Christians, the Inquisition; history recounts one big conspiracy to wipe out Christianity.

The Bible says we wrestle not against flesh and blood but principalities and powers of the air. Evil men all think alike when it comes to serving their master Satan, who energizes and controls them in their minds and hearts.

And since Satan is the god of this world, he has power, wealth, glitter and wiles to force, but also to seduce, bewitch, bribe and corrupt people into doing his will.

So yeah, human beings plot and connive to do evil, as we read in the Bible how the Jews plotted against Jesus, but there's somebody behind the scenes working it all together to evil, and his name is Satan.

John UK wrote:
And then there is the rich, young, very covetous man, who turned his back on Jesus and walked away. Why? - because of his COVETOUSNESS. And Jesus loved him. Oh yes, Jesus loved him all right. He lamented the decision, and was saddened.
G'night all! God bless!

Takeheed wrote:
http://www.iconbusters.com/iconbusters/htm/false_prophets/Alberto%20Rivera.pdf
Glad you did some research!

Every one of Chick's tracts makes the point that once you say The Prayer, you're good to go and will live hapily ever after.

The doctrines Chick promotes have disabled Christians from being salt and light, helped turn them into warmongers and hypocrits.

Islam is the fastest growing religion, NOT by the point of the sword, but by attracting people by holy living, fear and reverence to God, courage and putting spiritual values ahead of the snares of the devil; compared to fluffer-nutter, worldly, and deceived Christians.

Pat Robertson is a Freemason, and Copeland, Ken Hagen, Benny Hinn flash the devil hand sign, use hypnosis, fraud and lies.

Neil wrote:
How do I verify independently Springmeier's claim that someone was in the pay of the Rothschilds?

In the 1500s the five Rothschild sons became a financial dynasty in all of Europe.

The Money Masters, 3 hr documentary online, gives the history of the central banks and World Bank, back to the Rothschilds, reveals J.P. Morgan who financed the robber barons died w/ a small personal estate, was found to have acted as a Rothschild agent.

A Google of the Rothschilds shows they own all the media and most of the industries on the planet; through history have started and financed countless wars, financing both sides.

Fritz Springmeier's shocking book 13 Bloodlines of the Illuminati show these families are Satanists. Satanists are the rich and famous, many doctors, lawyers, generals, presidents, and at the top are the owners of the central banks.

Jesus chased the money masters out of the temple, remember? You see the Bankster heist just pulled on America? It wasn't $700 billion but rather they are stealing $1 trillion a week.

Neil wrote:
Banned, all that is still irrelevant to my question about J.P. Morgan & its alleged Jesuit status...the inroads .. into "Protestant" churches, bother me more than any alleged conspiracies involving it.

The Rothschilds start wars, fund both sides, and pretty much own every blade of grass in America. We stand at the brink of total tyranny, the shutdown of the Internet as we know it, because of THEM, their minions the Rockefellers, the 13 families who own the world, the e medicine industry totally, the media. It's not a neutral or benevolent ownership but one used to enslave and kill.

They are one big den of vipers and the Catholics are only one of its tentacles.

Jesus said the love of money is the root of all evil. They buy up everything, and everybody is for sale.

Here's that great video, The Money Masters, How The International Bankers Gained Control of America

Neil wrote:
I don't see what the Rothschilds have to do with my question. I know a few things about them, such as their financing of the Allies late in the Napoleonic Wars. Nothing nefarious there, unless you're French

The word is Satanist. Do you read me?

Here's a good place to start. Rothschild means pure Illuminati. They start and fund every evil, start the wars and fund both sides, and their scheming and evil doings knows no bounds.

They own the media, the Royals and the Vatican. They own Israel, arranged for its creation and paid for it.

They ruin and corrupt everything they touch, and they are now in the process of destroying America utterly with a deliberate and planned implosion of the economy, and the troops are being placed in the streets of America, even if they are passing out toys to children at Christmas. When they get through with us they won't be passing out toys.

They have bought and paid for and corrupted almost everything on this planet.

Fritz Springmeyer has their number. This link shows the pure evil of this family.

Neil wrote:
Chris Lowney, Managing Director of JP Morgan, admits to having been a Jesuit, so I assume this is the basis for the charge. But what exactly is a "Jesuit bank?" One that practices high finance according to Jesuit doctrine? If so, how is that even possible, given the Jesuits' obsession with [URL=http://www.jesuit.org/SocialJustice/default.aspx]]]Social Justice[/URL] (shared with many alleged "Protestants")? I cannot imagine lending money to fund an ostensibly charitable activity.
For what it's worth, J.P. himself was a devout Episcopalian.

enough already wrote:
Where in that post did I say I feared Obama would ease off Muslims?

enough already wrote:
Have you read the news stories all across the internet on Muslim countries rejoicing over Obama's victory? There is a story at Fox news concerning Iran's Ahmadinejad, for the first time since the 1979 Islamic Revolution, an Iranian leader has offered well wishes to a U.S. president-elect. There is a much deeper issue concerning Barack Obama; uniformed, uneducated, unbelieving voters refused to listen to the warnings, and now America is barreling into very perilous, dark and evil times. Through it all I pray, 'thy will be done'.

enough already wrote:
Banned; again, I ask for evidence. You accused me of making this statement, 'that I have a fear Obama would ease off on Muslims', I ask you where did I state that?

Hopefully I have relieved your fears somewhat now that you know Obama's chief of staff Rahm Emanuel is Mossad, and with all the Zionist warmongers and he has appointed to his cabinet you will be also pleased.

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enough already wrote:
All your postings do indeed confirm suspicions of you being a supporter of anti-semitism. You cannot call yourself a 'Christian' and have hatred..the Jewish people.

WWIII most likely will mean you and I and everybody we know will die. Is that really what you want? Even if only the Muslims die, is that still what you want?

As to being "suspicious" of me, that's the worst thing about this whole phony War on Terror -- people pointing fingers at each other, and everybody is now a suspected terrorist.

enough already wrote:
Banned's constant anti-semitism is frightening."

You were posting earlier about your fear that Obama would ease off on the Muslims when Obama's chief of staff Rahm Emanuel is a Mossad, Chicago Jewish Mafia; and half the administration are Mossad or dual-citizen Jews.

You cannot call yourself a Christian and be so bloodthirsty. You must be steeped in war propaganda to speak and think as you do for WWIII.

Michael Hranek wrote:
..repeatedly take the Muslim side who are infamous in their desires to exterminate the Jews..

And Afghanistan? Aren't we there to track down bin Laden in his cave and get rid of the Taliban so women don't have to wear burkhas? Do you have proof we're there because the Afghanis want to kill all the Jews?

And Iran? You want to give them the same "treatment," or worse, because you claim they also want to "exterminate the Jews?"

Can you explain what makes the Jews so special that we are supposed to blow up most of the planet for them and let them run what's left of the world by way of their phony antichrist messiah?

And the Palestinians whose homes were stolen by the Jews (superior DNA gives them the right),maybe we should start with them first?

And Lebanon, which Israel bombed Beirut into the Stone Age last year, killed a lot of Christians, are they "defeated" enough to suit you? Or not.

Michael Hranek wrote:
Banned
...this war was a terrible thing that could have been prevented had the nations stood up against Hitler prior to WWII ...

You are deceived, and many of us were for a time, but it's 7 years since 9/11 and you act like it was yesterday.

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This is the last straw. I totally wash my hands of Jack Chick. Who can believe anything that comes from Jack Chick at this point.

Yes, the Catholic Church is evil. Who knows, some things Rivera said about the Catholic Church may well be true, but he did not learn them as a Jesuit priest, and he is not to be trusted generally.

Neil wrote:
Banned, see http://www.thedcl.org/bible/kjv-1611/index.html for the "real thing." The facsimile of the 1611 Gospel of Luke contains the very footnote about a textual variant for Luke 17:36 that my Zondervan reproduces. Other footnotes that I spot-checked were the same too, so I have reason to believe Zondervan was faithful to the original.
So the 1611 KJV itself is "guilty" of engendering "doubt" about the text by noting manuscript variants. Whether the footnotes are "negative" or not is beside the point.

But I'll be watching here to see if people more informed than I am on manuscripts and such have things to add to the discussion.

Tony Lopez-Cisneros wrote:
You see, The Satanic-Vatican "Jesuits" LOVE IT when we refer to The Satanic-Vatican or Roman "Catholicism" as "The Catholic Church"--it verbally "legitimizes" their sinister & psychological "mind control" & semantic "legalisms".

BTW, the post above "Does God Love Everybody" -- I goofed, referred to "Parable of the Sower" when I meant Jesus' story of the Good Samaritan.